Thursday, December 20, 2012

Who is Warrington Gillette?


Warrington Gillete
from: Pound4Pound.com
Of course most of us Friday The 13th fans know him as an actor who played Jason in the infamous window crash scene in Friday The 13th Part II. Unfortunately for people none the wiser may call him Jason II, and rightfully so- he was indeed credited as Jason Voorhees, right? It's a very common misconception since day one and for the people who frequented the Guts & Gory forum a handful of years back sort of know where I am going with this. Around 2003, at the height of the Friday The 13th website craze a lot of actors from the franchise came out to do interviews, attend conventions and meet fans. Around 2003/2004 Warrington Gillette was asked to do some conventions and he kindly obliged. He attended a lot of conventions and even had his own forum at Guts & Gory as well as his own website www.jason2kills.com.



Gillette sold signed scripts, signed photos and raffle tickets for $50.00 on his website to own a portion of his upcoming slasher film Bloody Social. Bloody Social was supposed to be an 80's throwback style slasher film which would explain the death of his father and the circumstances around it- a lot of us bought raffle tickets and to this date the movie has never been made. To this day his online store is still open and most fans know to stay away from it, however I am sure a lot unsuspecting people purchase things they will never get. His website has not been updated since 2004 and his store still sells a long out of print Jason II mask. I guess some people can just say that he no longer updates it, or it's a defunct website, but someone has to be paying for the domain and the hosting service to keep it up since 2004!

So, fast forward to around 2005, a guy named Steve Daskawisz (also know as Steve Dash) was notified about Gillette taking sole credit as Jason II, completely ignoring the fact that 3 other actors had played Jason in the film including Steve Dash himself who played the majority of the movie. As it turns out, Gillette was fired very early in production of the film for his inability to perform the stunt in the window crash scene, which was filmed first. The scene was supposed to take a couple takes, however stunt coordinator Cliff Cudney explains that it took 6-7 takes for Gillette to perform the stunt and only when he had to be belted to a pendulum and swung through- Gillette denied that:
Listen here PIT there was NO rigging at all. I made the jump about 10 times so I clearly remember it. There was a platform built outside the window of the house that allowed three steps and a blast through. Steve Dash has no idea what he's talking about and he was not there. I don't remember Cliff Cudney being there so I have no idea what he talking about.
If you look closely at the movie you can tell by his trajectory through the window that he was indeed swung through. He also denied that Cudney was even there, when he clearly was. Cliff Cudney explains:

First of all, this was a low budget film, there is no way they would have made up ten (10) balsa wood and candy glass windows for you to jump through, much less have taken the time to clear the debris, reset the windows, relight (while the rest of the cast and crew stood around), and redo the shot TEN times. How many days would this have taken, and why would they have to do it TEN times, unless you screwed up nine times?

This wasn't my fight, but you brought it to me when you demeaned what I do. I take a great deal of pride in my work. I have never asked for the "glory", but I will NOT have my work discredited. I was hired to supervise the lesser stunts, and design, build the rigs to accomplish, and execute the major stunts in Part 2, e.g. the snare trap, the wheelchair down the stairs backwards, Warrington though the window, etc,. 
I would expound on exactly what happened prior to the "rig" shot, but my purpose here is not to embarrass you.

By the way, over the years I have collected a great deal of "memorabilia", or junk from many films, most of which is still in a barn in Northwest New Jersey. Included in this "collection" are things from FRIDAY THE 13th PartII, like the wheelchair, one of the machetes that Steve wore in his shoulder, AND the pendulum rig that put you through the window! The next time I travel back North, I will be sure to get some pictures of it for your scrapbook.
So, Gillette was fired and Ellen Lutter and Jerry Wallace took over as Jason until actor/stuntman Steve Daskawisz was hired to play Jason, which he did for the rest of the movie. Unfortunately in movies credits are generally expressed in contracts and since Gillette's window crash scene could not be re-shot due to budgetary conflicts, Gillette's contract demanded that he be credited as Jason since he was indeed still in the movie. Steve Daskawisz had to then be credited as his stunt double, Jerry Wallace as "The Prowler" and Ellen Lutter was uncredited as Jason. If you watch the credits of Friday The 13th Part III you will notice that the archive footage of Jason from Part II Daskawisz is indeed credited.

So, the movie was shot and 25 years later Gillette had been attending conventions, selling merchandise, had an action figure made of himself, shot interviews on documentaries and was making money on his character. I, myself, admit that I have never heard Gillette talk about shooting any scene other than the window crash scene, but at the same time he has never denied playing Jason for the entire movie even when fans talked to him about it. He would casually play along with it, perhaps in fear of letting that fan down. I personally think that Gillette let greed take him over and in turn he profited on the fact that people thought he was Jason for the entire movie. Later on Steve Dash was alerted about Gillette taking sole credit and he understandably came out of the woodwork furious. It seems like Dash had went on with his life and had put the role as Jason behind him. When he was told that someone was discrediting him he felt obligated to let the fans know who Jason really was.

The confrontation came to a head at the 2005 Necrocomicon convention in Los Angeles where Gillette was selling signed photos of a scene that Dash filmed claiming it was him. Dash invited Gillette to a corner and asked him to stop. After that confrontation everyone on the Guts & Gory board discussed it and all were let down of Gillette's lie- we had all been deceived. Gillette came on the board and discussed it with us, first calling Dash a liar and eventually confessing he had lied and asked for forgiveness. Here's Dash's own words:
You are an outright liar Warrngton. How dare you say I am in for the money, you sleaze ball. You have been taking money from the fans selling raffles for your phony movie. You took money from a fan signing your name on my picture and refuse to give her the money back when she found out that the picture was of me and not you. You sucked up to my table with no one around and said you meant no harm and even gave me that bullshit story about having a skiing accident and losing your memory so you cant remember what you did on the film. You have the nerve to say you did not use a swing to go through the window!! Your a liar a downright liar.
Warrington Gillette (Left) with stunt coordinator Cliff Cudney  
Before Gillette had confessed stunt coordinator Cliff Cudney also discussed Gillette's role in the movie, and calling him a liar. Gillette had denied even meeting Cliff, that's when Cliff had submitted a photo of them together. It was clear that Gillette had lied and was not back-peddling to save face with fans. Cudney was understandably pissed off and here are his own words:
You sir, are either a habitual liar, or have the worst memory in the world! I might be able to understand you not remembering me personally (I am the guy in the picture with you), but I find it difficult to believe you forgot the man who tried to help you overcome your ineptitude as a stuntman, which you lied to Steve Miner, and Dennis Murphy (the producer) about. And the guy who finally had to build a rig, strap you into it, and with the help of Webster Whinery (another stuntman) push you through the window and hold you in the "up" position to accomplish the shot.
Shortly after all of that happened Gillette's forum was removed and he basically dropped out of the mainstream convention radar. Now it was very clear who Gillette was- he was just another actor who played Jason and only due to his credit was he THE face of Jason- he never eve donned the infamous sack. Everything seemed to be straightened out until it had been revealed that his publicity agent (Timothy Beal)  had been logging into forums, YouTube and other boards calling Dash a liar, saying he only played a scene or two in the movie and that Gillette himself played 85% of the movie- this after Gillette had confessed! Should we blame Gillette for this? I think so since Gillette has never said anything about it, nor has he confronted the fact that his publicity agent (at the time) was just trying to turn fans against Steve Dash.

Steve Dash
from: Pound4Pound.com
Facts remain, most of the cast agree that Steve Dash played Jason for the majority of the movie; Russell Todd, Amy Steel, John Furey, Lauren-Marie Taylor have all backed Dash and Cudney's accusations against Gillette. It should be an open and shit case, but it is not. Gillette has taken a lot of money from fans and still owes a lot of people who bought his $50.00 raffle tickets for a movie that will probably never see the light of day. I personally think that Gillette should confront this situation like a man and apologize, otherwise his signature won't be worth the photo it's signed on in my eyes.

Here's Gillette's denial:
Steve lies and tells people I was fired which is a cruel joke. He tries to put me down to build himself up ! Yes, Steve Dash does deserve some credit for doing some stunt double work in the epic Friday the 13th II movie. But now he wants to take all the credit after 24 years, which is absurd and try and destroy me ! That is pathetic from a jealous man. I was cast as the original JASON and Steve was cast as a " stunt double". PERIOD ! NOTHING MORE TO DISCUSS. Obviously I was extremely young at the time, because I am young now. I didn't have vast stunt experience so there were some stunts better suited for a bigger man with more experience than myself. Steve's comments about the window scene are a joke. We built a platform outside the house and I performed the stunt and blasted through the window with no pads and no protective eyeware. Steve makes up shit by saying there was a rigging that enabled me to smash through window and that he would have done it like I actually did it. Where does he come up with this crap to discredit me? Now, why after 24 years does this man come out of nowhere making false claims! For what reason ? None other than jealously. There is no money so why ? In closing I am not going to reduce myself to his level of jealousy over a part we played many years ago. I am not that proud of walking around slashing and killing kids at a camp with no lines or display of acting ability. I am looking forward to doing some new work that I can be proud of as an actor.
And then his admittance and apology:

PIT, FANS and STEVE;
I do acknowledge the work of Steve Dash. I am sorry for all the confusion, over the years it really escalated out of control, I hope everyone understands. 
Yes I give credit to Steve Dash for his work in the film. 
I was young and lucky when I had the privilege to be a JASON, I only wish I had done more. Yes it was brief but I was happy to have been involved at all. 
Keep in mind when I was informed by the Director they no longer needed me, after my famous scene through the window, I politely and sadly departed. Since I was not there I had no idea what transpired for the remainder of the shoot and never knew who did what. 
Obviously the director never called me and explained how he finished the movie. 

I had a party for the premiere of the movie in New York and no one that worked on the movie came.
After that moment I forgot about JASON for 20 years while the franchise kept getting bigger.
From the end of the shoot I never saw or spoke to anyone from the film until I ran into a few cast members at Fangoria in 2004. Subsequent to that John Gray asked me if I would participate in a web site which I was happy to cooperate. 
I never heard of Steve Dash's name or involvement until Necrocomcion in LA on Friday the 13th 2005. 
Throughout the years the media contacted me , I merely went along with everything they did. I was personable and would go with the flow. Why object when they were so nice to me? It was all in fun anyway, no one really took it seriously with a photo shoot with a simulated head on a platter. We all would just laugh and move on. 

When asked about the movie in interviews I only discussed what I did and I always responded by saying I had no idea who did most of the stunts because I wasn't there. I only assumed Carl Fullerton or the Director did them. Since I knew Carl I would keep giving credit to him.
If someone had contacted me once in 24 years and let me know what was going on then I would of course mentioned it. I was not told I was replaced by a more experienced stunt man. They said nothing to me! 
No once did I discuss any kill scenes that I supposedly did when in reality someone else or Steve did them. I do apologize for all the confusion and yes I give credit to Steve Dash for his work.
I am trying to move forward with my life and do something to be remembered for all my own within my own abilities. Please give me the respect for trying. Hopefully I get there and we'll all one day laugh at this moment. 
When I say lets all meet in Hell obviously it was a joke consistent with the outlandish humor on this board. Hopefully we will not meet in hell and hopefully ascend to higher more divine resting places.

Thank you all for the support and recognition that you have given me for the small role I did play in this crazy franchise and please everyone and Steve accept my apologies in debacle.
Thanks
WG
Who is lying? You be the judge!


30 comments:

  1. thatswfully late in coming but great nonetheless warrington,eddy

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  2. i wanna cut warringtons ugly head off

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  3. If you look at Warrington, he really favors Jason 2 a lot in real life.

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  4. The person who wrote this article is obviously a nut hugger of Steve Doucheawiz. This article is done from a one sided perspective. If you read the credits on the film of Friday The 13TH Part II you will notice that Warrington Gillette was credited as JASON. And thats really the end of discussion. History books will ALLWAYS read WARRINGTON GILLETTE -as JASON in Friday 13TH Part II.

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    1. Look, obviously you did not read the entire article for if you did you would know that he was couldn't reshoot the window scene so they credited steve as the stunt double and the other two were basically uncredited so in the history books Warrington will be known for a 10 second scene whereas Steve will rightfully be credited for the rest of the movie. The article seems one sided because what Warrington said was all bullshit and the author of this article was aware of this and if you still think Warrington is a liar lok at Jason forever on part 2 deluxe edition where he is at Fangoria where he says he dawns but doesn't keep the sack, where he denies ever saying he did something he didn't do on his forum which is more bullshit. So overall you need to look at the facts and not all of the constant bullshit Warrington has constantly fed us fans.

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  5. Hey Tim (AKA anonymous).
    Fuck you. We all know the truth, and credit means shit. You can pay a producer to get credit in a film- it doesn't mean anything.
    Grow up you fat piece of shit.

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  6. This SON OF A BITCH could have simply told everyone that he was the 'face' of Jason and could have still gotten a decent amount of admiration from fans; he instead lied about everything and ended up shitting on the film and the other cast members.

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  7. In the Friday the 13th Boxset doesn't Gillete mention getting his hand slashed by the machete in the scene where he blocks it with the Pickaxe? Was that even him?

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    1. It was Steve Dash whose hand was slashed. There's photos of it.

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  8. I don't know who here has met warrington over the years or hung out with him or just met him in passing with a signing at a con but I have had the honor of spending some time with War and the man is def a stand up guy. He's not a piece of crap at all. It has to be hard when a bunch of people are coming up to u and asking u to sign stuff that's not ur work and I know it was for Warrington. Ill defend this dude til the end and I know there's a lot of nasty stuff out there about him and things he's done but the guy really does understand what he's done and he really is sorry.

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    1. Well, it's about integrity. I have written plenty of actors over time, sending them a photo and $20, and having it sent back with, "Sorry, this is not me in the picture" note. My problem really isn't about Warrington signing stuff, but lying about it. He did lie flat out "I did this, this is me." He also lied about his movie project and took investor money\donations. Obviously Warrington may be a great dude, but people get judged on their actions and I have to judge him on my experience with him.

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  9. Well, it's about integrity. I have written plenty of actors over time, sending them a photo and $20, and having it sent back with, "Sorry, this is not me in the picture" note. My problem really isn't about Warrington signing stuff, but lying about it. He did lie flat out "I did this, this is me." He also lied about his movie project and took investor money\donations. Obviously Warrington may be a great dude, but people get judged on their actions and I have to judge him on my experience with him.

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  10. I MET Warington in 2009 and HE was a good dude. HE was not selling DASH photos either and NEVER saw him DOING that!!!

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    1. GTFO, Tim Beal.
      No one believes your claim that Gillette played 95% of the movie.

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  11. HisNameWasBrandonMarch 21, 2013 at 3:31 AM

    Wait a minute: Someone is peddling a story about Warrington playimg most of the role, even though we know about Ms. Lutter, Jerry Wallace as well as Mr. Dash (God bless'em)? Mawwhahaha!!! *points & laughs @ this Tim dude*

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  13. I am surprised that this post is still getting commented on. I think Dash said the problem has worked itself out and they are now cool

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  14. i was BennyX on guts and gory. i remember all this drauma back in the day. i heard they straightened it all out thank God

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  15. All these guys are lying or just crazy. I played Jason in every movie of the series and they gave me no credit. Also I have never been paid.

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    1. Wow you are such a terrible fucking liar. Seems you are on your way to becoming a Warrington jr.

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    2. ...and you should be well on the way to wiping your pussy, you whiny twat. The guy was obviously joking, so loosen the tweezer grip on your balls.

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  17. In my humble opinion, the most important fact is that Warrington remains the actor who gave the most humanity to Jason (except perhaps Ted White in the last scene of Joseph Zito's "final" chapter) in the whole franchise, playing under the mask as John Hurt gave humanity to Elephant Man..And if I do dare such an excessive comparison, it's because I'm still wondering WHY didn't this talented guy find a role to play until 2005 (and no other since that year!)? Fortunately he also is a wise real estate investor along being a talented horseriding champion, that can allows him to patient finding the funds to produce his own motion picture!
    What the hell if he didn't be able to be thrown across a window without help or not and if 85% of this stupid serie of murders is made by other hands, despite he put himself in an uncomfortable position nowadays maintaining the confusion here discussed!? (We all have our little ridiculous way to magnify this sort of celebrity, after all, overall if fans are demanding!) HE is the young Jason, succeeding to the sympathetic Ari Lehman..Final point. 
    Best regards from a french fan, Mr. Gillette, wish you courage and success!

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  18. Can you queers stop jerking off the truth is you fags ain't done shit since you had the chance

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  19. Warrington Gillette is an Actor and Stunt Man. He played Jason in Friday The 13TH Part II, he also acted in Time Walker and Penny Dreadful as well as Duplicity and Confessions Of A Shopaholic. So there is much much more to Warrington than the one role as Jason

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    1. Not sure if I would call him an actor a stuntman. He had a bit role in Time Walker and Penny Dreadful (that was basically a cameo). He was an extra in Duplicity and CoaS. As for stunts, well he really didn't perform stunts in F132 either. Most actors consider jumping through a window part of the acting, and not a special stunt... and we all know that is all that he did.

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  20. Interesting items. I don't know anything about the movie but I do know a great deal about the Gillet family (this is the correct spelling though the name has been mistakenly spelled Gillett in regard to this particular family. Martin Gillet came to Baltimore, Maryland around 1810 descended from a family which came to New England in the 1600's. He established the Martin Gillet Tea Company in Baltimore and this company continued into the 20th century under several relatives of Martin. The family was an important part of Baltimore and New York life. Warrington III was a direct descendent of Martin Gillet. Many members of this family are buried in Maryland and in Green Wood Cemetery in Brooklyn, N.Y.

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  21. Then... if that's Gillette.
    Who's that buried in Green Lawn Cemetary...?

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    1. Well played. I see what you did there!

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